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Message-ID: <11045.1174911764@redhat.com>
Date:	Mon, 26 Mar 2007 13:22:44 +0100
From:	David Howells <dhowells@...hat.com>
To:	Pekka J Enberg <penberg@...helsinki.fi>
Cc:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>, bryan.wu@...log.com,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Hugh Dickins <hugh@...itas.com>,
	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>, dhowells@...hat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH -mm] Revoke core code: fix nommu arch compiling error bug 

Pekka J Enberg <penberg@...helsinki.fi> wrote:

> > I don't know, what does it do?  Remember, once a NOMMU process thinks it
> > has the right to access a mapping, there's no way of stopping it doing so
> > short of killing the process.
> 
> revoke_mapping() is mostly same as munmap(2) except that it preserves the 
> vma but makes it VM_REVOKED. This means that if the process tries to 
> access the region it will SIGBUS and if it tries to remap the range it 
> will get EINVAL.

Yeah, that's not enforceable in NOMMU-mode situations.  I presume it differs
from munmap() also in that it can effectively be forced by one process upon
another.

In MMU-mode, how does this work with private mappings that have some private
copies of the pages that make up the mapping?  Are those still available to a
process that is using them?  Are they revoked when swapped out?  Or are they
forcibly evicted?

> What we're trying to do here is, we want to make sure no other tasks can 
> access the inode once it has been revoked.

Okay.

> So there's no way to raise SIGBUS if the range is being accessed. The 
> alternatives are:
> 
>   - No support for revoke(2) on NOMMU.

That's a bit over the top, I think.  It sounds like revoke() is perfectly fine
- as long as there aren't any mappings on the target inode (or at least shared
mappings - dunno about private mappings).

>   - If there are shared mappings, always return -ENOENT for revoke(2).

That sounds feasible.  How about -ETXTBSY instead?

>   - If there are shared mappings, immediately raise SIGBUS for those 
>     processes that are accessing it.

Hmmm... maybe.  That sounds a bit antisocial though, but is also workable.
Does the SIGBUS raised have its own si_code, btw?  Perhaps BUS_REVOKED?

> Making the shared mappings private is not an option because there's no way 
> for the process to know that it's mapping is being pulled under it which 
> will result in bugs. Hmm.

Agreed.

David
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