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Message-ID: <460A80E6.9040003@redhat.com>
Date:	Wed, 28 Mar 2007 10:51:18 -0400
From:	Prarit Bhargava <prarit@...hat.com>
To:	Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@...p.org>
CC:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	virtualization@...ts.osdl.org, Eric Dumazet <dada1@...mosbay.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Chris Lalancette <clalance@...hat.com>,
	John Hawkes <hawkes@....com>
Subject: Re: [patch 3/4] Locally disable the softlockup watchdog rather than
 touching it



Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
> Prarit Bhargava wrote:
>   
>> I don't like the idea of having touch_softlockup_watchdog exported
>> with your new code -- we still have two methods of effecting the
>> softlockup watchdog and that's confusing and its going to cause
>> serious problems down the road.
>>     
>
> It's legacy.  There are a few places where it wasn't obvious to me how
> to replace the touch_softlockup_watchdog, so I left them for now.  But
> ideally I think they should all go away.
>
>   
>> Is there a reason that you're pushing the enable/disable?  All the
>> cases called out seem to be just fine with calls to either effect that
>> CPU's softlockup watchdog or doing all CPU's softlockup watchdogs.
>>     
>
> Doing all CPUs is meaningless to me.  How does that make sense?  It
>   

You don't have to do them all -- you could do one with (as in my 
previous patch -- which I'm not married to BTW ;) )

touch_cpu_softlockup_watchdog()

and all with

touch_softlockup_watchdog()

> Zach has reported seeing spurious softlockup messages on idle machines
> running under a hypervisor.  And there was also the discussion about how
> to deal with a flash update system in which all CPUs are taken over by
> the bios for a long period of time, which was causing softlockup to
> trigger.  It seemed to me that these could all be dealt with in much the
> same way, and that disable/enable semantics for dealing with
> long-running timer holdoffs is more natural than trying to work out how
> to periodically touch the watchdog timer.
>
>   
But wouldn't a call to touch_[cpu_]softlockup_watchdog at the end of the 
flash update fix the problem?  And ditto for all other areas of the 
kernel where we know we're holding off scheduling?

P.


>     J
>   
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