linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] Stop pmac_zilog from abusing 8250's device numbers.

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Date:	Wed, 4 Apr 2007 11:48:11 +0200 (CEST)
From:	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@...ux-m68k.org>
To:	Russell King <rmk+lkml@....linux.org.uk>
Cc:	Brad Boyer <flar@...andria.com>, Paul Mackerras <paulus@...ba.org>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@...radead.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@...abs.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Stop pmac_zilog from abusing 8250's device numbers.

On Wed, 4 Apr 2007, Russell King wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 04:09:08PM -0700, Brad Boyer wrote:
> > The availability of the specific chip in question is a red herring in
> > my opinion. I do understand that 8250 compatible chips are very common
> > and are the most likely serial chips to be used with Linux. However, I
> > will point out that the define is TTY_MAJOR, not 8250_MAJOR. It seems
> > to me that whoever named it was thinking in more generic terms.
> 
> You're reading too much into the name.  It's historical, and the reason
> can still be seen in LANANA:
> 
>   4 char        TTY devices
>                   0 = /dev/tty0         Current virtual console
> 
>                   1 = /dev/tty1         First virtual console
>                     ...
>                  63 = /dev/tty63        63rd virtual console
>                  64 = /dev/ttyS0        First UART serial port
>                     ...
>                 255 = /dev/ttyS191      192nd UART serial port
> 
>                 UART serial ports refer to 8250/16450/16550 series devices.
> 
> When the drivers/char/serial.c driver was written, it was in the very
> early days of Linux.  I'd guess that the major/minor numbers were similar
> to Minix, thereby allowing a minixfs to be used as the initial filesystem
> type.
> 
> Anyway, as you can see, defining chardev major 4 to be "8250_MAJOR" would
> also be a misnomer because it's used for the virtual consoles, and it's
> _that_ use for which it (probably) was called TTY_MAJOR.
> 
> (Note that in the very early days, this major also got used for PTY
> devices.  Since then they've moved to major 2/3 and then we got Unix98
> PTY support.)

Oh, and I always thought PTYs were moved to free up more minors for our
zillions of serial ports...

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

						Geert

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