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Message-Id: <20070405161713.dcd8bed9.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Date:	Thu, 5 Apr 2007 16:17:13 -0700
From:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
To:	root@...gramming.kicks-ass.net
Cc:	linux-mm@...ck.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	miklos@...redi.hu, neilb@...e.de, dgc@....com,
	tomoki.sekiyama.qu@...achi.com, a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl,
	nikita@...sterfs.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 11/12] mm: accurate pageout congestion wait

On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 19:42:20 +0200
root@...gramming.kicks-ass.net wrote:

> Only do the congestion wait when we actually encountered congestion.

The name congestion_wait() was accurate back in 2002, but it isn't accurate
any more, and you got misled.  It does not only wait for a queue to become
uncongested.

See clear_bdi_congested()'s callers.  As long as the queue is in an
uncongested state, we deliver wakeups to congestion_wait() blockers on
every IO completion.  As I said before, it is so that the MM's polling
operations poll at a higher frequency when the IO system is working faster.
(It is also to synchronise with end_page_writeback()'s feeding of clean
pages to us via rotate_reclaimable_page()).



Page reclaim can get into trouble without any request queue having entered
a congested state.  For example, think about a machine which has a single
disk, and the operator has increased that disk's request queue size to
100,000.  With your patch all the VM's throttling would be bypassed and we
go into a busy loop and declare OOM instantly.

There are probably other situations in which page reclaim gets into trouble
without a request queue being congested.

Minor point: bdi_congested() can be arbitrarily expensive - for DM stackups
it is roughly proportional to the number of subdevices in the device.  We
need to be careful about how frequently we call it.

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