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Message-Id: <1175953623.20331.1183464796@webmail.messagingengine.com>
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2007 06:47:03 -0700
From: johnrobertbanks@...tmail.fm
To: "Willy Tarreau" <w@....eu>
Cc: "Jan Harkes" <jaharkes@...cmu.edu>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Reiser4. BEST FILESYSTEM EVER.
Hi Willy,...
> With decent CPU, you can reach higher read/write data rates than what a
> single off-the-shelf disk can achieve. For this reason, I think that
> reiser4 would be worth trying for this particular usage.
Glad to see you are willing to give Reiser4 a go.
Good man.
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On Sat, 7 Apr 2007 09:15:35 +0200, "Willy Tarreau" <w@....eu> said:
> On Fri, Apr 06, 2007 at 10:58:45PM -0700, johnrobertbanks@...tmail.fm
> wrote:
> > You know,... you cut out this bit:
> >
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > > The following benchmarks are from
> > >
> > > http://linuxhelp.150m.com/resources/fs-benchmarks.htm or,
> > > http://m.domaindlx.com/LinuxHelp/resources/fs-benchmarks.htm
>
> ...
>
> Hey John, please change your disk, it's scratched and you're repeating
> yourself again and again. At first I thought "Oh cool, some good news
> about reiser4", now when I see "reiserfs" in a thread, I think "oh no,
> not this boring guy who escaped from the asylum again !". I hope this
> thread will be cut shortly so that you stop doing bad publicity to
> reiserfs and its developers, because when a product is indicated as
> good by stupid people, it's really doing harm.
>
> Also, about this part :
> [Jan]
> > > But in the end everything is a tradeoff. You can save diskspace, but
> > > increase the cost of corruption.
>
> I don't 100% agree with Jan, because for some usages (temporary space),
> light compression can increase speed. For instance, when processing logs,
> I get better speed by compressing intermediate files with LZO on the fly.
>
> [John]
> > You deliberately ignored the fact that bad blocks are NOT dealt with by
> > the filesystem,... but by the operating system. Like I said: If your
> > filesystem is writing to bad blocks, then throw away your operating
> > system.
>
> But what you write here is complete crap. The filesystem relies on a
> linear block device. The operating system is responsible for doing
> read retries or reporting errors on bad blocks, but the FS and only
> the FS can decide how not to use some known defective areas, for
> instance not putting any metadata on them nor any useful data.
>
> Now if you want to stop writing stupid things again and again, take
> your bag, don't miss the bus to school, and listen to the teachers
> instead of playing games on your calculator.
>
> Willy
> PS: non need to reply either, I'll kill this thread and your address
> here.
>
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