linux-kernel - Re: [RFC, PATCH 1/3] introduce SYS_CLONE

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Message-ID: <m11wit34fo.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com>
Date:	Mon, 09 Apr 2007 10:20:27 -0600
From:	ebiederm@...ssion.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To:	Roland McGrath <roland@...hat.com>
Cc:	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...sign.ru>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Davide Libenzi <davidel@...ilserver.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Robin Holt <holt@....com>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-arch@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC, PATCH 1/3] introduce SYS_CLONE_MASK

Roland McGrath <roland@...hat.com> writes:

> I concur with Eric's assessment.  Adding new magic bits to the generic
> clone path seems like a poor way to cope with kernel threads.  I think
> it's better if kernel thread setup gets less like normal user process
> setup.  I also agree with Eric that PPID of 0 is a very natural way for
> kernel threads to be displayed.  We need to know more about the nature
> of the compatibility issue in procps to judge whether there is good
> reason to avoid changing it.

I just investigated the procps issue.  Using init_task as the parent
nothing sticks out as being wrong in /proc.

Further when I modified pstree to accept 0 as it's starting pid (from
which all else would be rooted).  All of the kernel threads showed up.

So if anything I it is a feature that kernel threads don't show up
by default in pstree (when PPID == 0).  It isn't a subtle kernel bug.

Eric
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