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Message-ID: <461A900C.40400@tmr.com>
Date:	Mon, 09 Apr 2007 15:12:12 -0400
From:	Bill Davidsen <davidsen@....com>
To:	johnrobertbanks@...tmail.fm
CC:	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, dhlii@...cast.net,
	linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: REISER4 FOR INCLUSION IN THE LINUX KERNEL.

johnrobertbanks@...tmail.fm wrote:

>> I actually beleive that Hans made a reasonable case that 
>> Reiser4 had gone about as far as it could reasonably go with regard 
>> to testing, robustness, ... without the broader base of use that 
>> even an experimental filesystem in distribution tree would get.
> 
> Of course, this is an entirely reasonable request of Reiser's.
> One meet with an array of unreasonable actions, but mainly STALLING 
> which has led to REISER4 never becoming part of the main kernel.
> 
> It has also lead to many false claims about REISER4. Claims that are
> never backed up with solid statistics, but used to keep REISER4 out of
> the kernel and tar its reputation.
> 
Keep that last sentence in mind for four lines...

>>     I for one would at least play with it if it were in the distribution
>> tree.
> 
> I AM SURE THERE ARE A HUGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO WOULD GIVE IT A TRY.
>  
"Claims that are never backed up with solid statistics, ..."

>>     As far as I could tell Hans pretty much everything else that 
>> was demanded. Hans eventually caved and provided - albeit with much 
>> pissing and moaning, and holy than thou rhetoric.
> 
> It was not his pissing and moaning, etc,... these were just excuses to
> keep REISER4 from succeeding. The truth is, that any excuse would do.
> 
> The real reasons are financial and backed by big money (sometimes, big
> egos).
> 
Yes all of the people who make millions on the other filesystems! 
Wait... identify who makes a penny more or less with or without Reiser4.

[ snip ]

Until Namesys is stable there's no support team. It's not my impression 
that there's much support otherwise.

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen@....com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot
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