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Date:	Tue, 10 Apr 2007 17:57:37 -0400
From:	"Bob Copeland" <me@...copeland.com>
To:	"Neil Brown" <neilb@...e.de>
Cc:	"Trond Myklebust" <trond.myklebust@....uio.no>,
	"Theodore Tso" <tytso@....edu>,
	"Jörn Engel" <joern@...ybastard.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
	"Christoph Hellwig" <hch@...radead.org>,
	"Ulrich Drepper" <drepper@...il.com>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: If not readdir() then what?

On 4/10/07, Neil Brown <neilb@...e.de> wrote:
> 2/ Some data structure using an ordered search key that is based on
>   the filename (e.g. a B-tree with a search key that is a hash of the
>   filename).
>
> In the first case, you just use a fixed opaque cookie for location in
> a directory.
> In the second you use the filename.  If the file has been deleted,
> that shouldn't stop you finding the place where it would have been in
> the overall sort order.

I can think of one (admittedly insane) FS that is between those two:

3/ an unsorted hash table, where each directory entry has an indirect
pointer to its neighbor in case of hash collisions.

   a
   b -> d -> c -> e
   g
   f -> x

Given 'c' as the "last" thing returned, you can hash c to find out
that you are in the bucket with 'b', but if 'c' was deleted, the best
you can do is return b twice or skip the chain entirely.  I maintain
an out-of-tree driver for such an fs (I promise I did not invent it);
the best I could come up with is to encode the hash chain index in the
top byte of f_pos.   Needless to say, readdir is very not performant
with all the seeking this hash scheme entails.

-Bob
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