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Message-id: <200704110001.40573.gene.heskett@gmail.com>
Date:	Wed, 11 Apr 2007 00:01:38 -0400
From:	Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@...il.com>
To:	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Cc:	Phillip Susi <psusi@....rr.com>, Olaf Hering <olaf@...fle.de>,
	Dave Dillow <dave@...dillows.org>,
	Dave Jones <davej@...hat.com>,
	Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@...ux01.gwdg.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>, Jeff Garzik <jeff@...zik.org>
Subject: Re: I give up

On Tuesday 10 April 2007, Phillip Susi wrote:
>Gene Heskett wrote:
>> YOU Tell the tar people, they are flabbergasted that linux is
>> apparently the only unstable OS that tar can be run on.
>
>How about cygwin/windows?  It has no concept of static device numbers.
>And what about external usb disks on any other unix os?  Surely they
>don't have static minor device numbers in the face of hot plugging?
>
>The bug is in tar and that is what needs fixed.  It should not attach
>any meaning to the device number, but rather should assume that the
>admin knows what he is doing when he said to backup a given path using a
>given incremental backup log, and that he isn't yanking tar's chain and
>pointing it to a different path between incremental backups.

I violently agree on that point, but the limited conversations I've had 
with the tar maintainer so far indicates that AFAHIC, its linux that's 
broken.  A new device number is a new disk and must be treated as such.

-- 
Cheers, Gene
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 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
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