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Message-ID: <20070416222517.GD14351@andrew-vasquezs-computer.local>
Date:	Mon, 16 Apr 2007 15:25:17 -0700
From:	Andrew Vasquez <andrew.vasquez@...gic.com>
To:	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>
Cc:	linux-scsi@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	James.Bottomley@...elEye.com, ema@...ian.org
Subject: Re: Major qla2xxx regression on sparc64

On Mon, 16 Apr 2007, David Miller wrote:

> From: Andrew Vasquez <andrew.vasquez@...gic.com>
> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 14:10:49 -0700
> 
> > Ok, how about the following patch based on the one you posted which
> > adds the codes to retrieve the WWPN/WWNN from firmware on SPARC, and
> > also adds the module-parameter override I mentioned above.
> > 
> > Perhaps the module-parameter should be set to non-zero in the case of
> > SPARC, to take care of your system configurations?
> 
> I think it should default to non-zero always, in fact the option
> is completely pointless.
> 
> The guy who hits this had a system which worked previously, and you're
> explicitly breaking it.  That's wrong.

Sorry, 'it' didn't work...  'It' *never* did.

> How can you not see that this quality of implementation decision
> you're making stinks?

You're defending a position which itself left users with a false sense
of security and comfort.  This is a *real* problem from an enterprise
perspective where FC reigns.  Fine, I'll agree that wacking-users (and
I'll wager the outliers) with a 2x4 was a bit extreme, but I'd much
rather handle those users on a case-by-case basis, either by:

* If dealing with a PCI card, directing a user  to a support staff at
  QLogic to resolve the NVRAM issues.

* If it's some on-board ISP with no NVRAM, as was your SPARC case,
  then add *proper* codes to retrieve the data from some secondary
  persistent store.
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