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Message-ID: <20070416232851.GA15840@dmccrory-d810.qlogic.org>
Date:	Mon, 16 Apr 2007 16:28:51 -0700
From:	Andrew Vasquez <andrew.vasquez@...gic.com>
To:	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>
Cc:	linux-scsi@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	James.Bottomley@...elEye.com, ema@...ian.org
Subject: Re: Major qla2xxx regression on sparc64

On Mon, 16 Apr 2007, David Miller wrote:

> From: Andrew Vasquez <andrew.vasquez@...gic.com>
> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 15:25:17 -0700
> 
> > Fine, I'll agree that wacking-users (and
> > I'll wager the outliers) with a 2x4 was a bit extreme,
> 
> And that, right there, is basically the end of the conversation.
> 
> You don't do this to users, ever.
> Put a big loud kernel log message in there when this situation
> presents itself, use as many capital letters and scary language that
> you wish.  Let them know that if things explode they get to keep the
> pieces.
> 
> But at least try to give them something that works when you know that
> you can.
>
> You don't need to make someone's system unbootable in order to make
> them aware of a potential problem.  It's very anti-social to approach

Sorry, but let's be realistic, this type of warning would have *NEVER*
been addressed if we kept the status quo -- your modifications to read
the wwpn/wwnn would have never been submitted, everybody would have
kept going on blistfully ignorant of the issue.  Changes such as these
are a common Linux upstream idiom...

So, meeting in the middle, with the NVRAM bits restored along with
some ability for the user to *knowingly* recognize the problem, I take
it, is not going to work for you?
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