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Message-ID: <20070419145133.2f7ed45a@gondolin.boeblingen.de.ibm.com>
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 14:51:33 +0200
From: Cornelia Huck <cornelia.huck@...ibm.com>
To: "Dmitry Torokhov" <dmitry.torokhov@...il.com>
Cc: "Tejun Heo" <htejun@...il.com>,
"Alan Stern" <stern@...land.harvard.edu>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
"Greg K-H" <greg@...ah.com>,
"Rusty Russell" <rusty@...tcorp.com.au>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFD] alternative kobject release wait mechanism
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 12:41:36 -0400,
"Dmitry Torokhov" <dmitry.torokhov@...il.com> wrote:
> I am still do not understand why this is needed. Would it not be
> simplier just to use a reference to struct device instead of embedding
> it in a larger structure if their lifetimes are different and one does
> not have a subsystem that takes care of releasing logic.
Why are their lifetimes different? Usually, if I hold on to the device,
I also want to be able to use the structure that embeds the device.
> Pretty much drivers have 2 options:
>
> struct my_device {
> void *private_data;
> struct device dev;
> };
>
> In this case ->release must live in a subsystem code; individual
> drivers kfree(my_dev->private) and do any additional cleanup after
> calling device_unregister(&my_dev->dev);
They must do this in the ->remove callback.
>
> Second option:
>
> struct my_device {
> type member1;
> type member2;
>
> struct device *dev;
> };
>
> dev is coming from _device_create(). Driver core takes care of
> releasing dev structure; driver does cleanup of my_device.
device_create() would need to not expect a class then, or it's not
universally usable. Also, the driver would need a method to get back
from the device to my_device. We're practically back at the first
option again, only that now the ->release function is sitting in the
driver core instead of the subsystem.
> With current sysfs orphaning attributes upon removal request there is
> no issue of accessing driver-private data through references obtained
> via ether embedded or referenced dev structure so everything is fine.
Discoupling of sysfs and kobject lifetime rules definetly eliminates a
lot of issues.
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