linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 10/28] i386: map enough initial memory to create lowmem mappings

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Message-ID: <m1vefnvvyb.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com>
Date:	Mon, 23 Apr 2007 11:31:40 -0600
From:	ebiederm@...ssion.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To:	Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@...p.org>
Cc:	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
	Chuck Ebbert <cebbert@...hat.com>, Andi Kleen <ak@...e.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	virtualization@...ts.osdl.org, lkml <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Zachary Amsden <zach@...are.com>,
	Chris Wright <chrisw@...s-sol.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 10/28] i386: map enough initial memory to create lowmem mappings

Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@...p.org> writes:

> H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>> Since we allocate the maximum possible memory statically, I fail to
>> see how holes could make the situation any worse, or better. 
>
> No, we map enough space to map 4G (~4 pages), but we don't actually map
> 4G.  If a hole happened to start within that 4 page mapping, then the
> memory still wouldn't be available for allocation.
>
> I think this is a bit of a spurious argument though, since if it were
> really a problem we'd have to worry about holes hitting the kernel image
> too.  As far as I can see, that's not considered to be a problem.

- holes hitting the kernel image is not something we can do anything about.

- I have always believed we need to export enough information so the
  bootloader can verify that we don't hit a hole in the initial
  kernel image.

- I know of one system that had BIOS tables at 16MB I believe (and
  thus had a fairly low hole).

- Given that we are actually increasing (not decreasing) the number of
  scenarios where we boot the kernel it probably makes sense to be
  as robust as we can.

- If we support putting the ramdisk immediately after the kernel image
  in memory we will actually hit this case in practice. 

> I think the real point is that there's currently a subtle dependency
> between head.S and bootmem allocation which happens between start_kernel
> and pagetable_init.  Your patch preventing over-mapping should make them
> easier to smoke out as it currently stands, but eliminating the problem
> by making alloc_bootmem create the mappings for itself does have
> appeal.  There would still be the dependency on head.S to map the kernel
> itself and the bootmem allocator bitmap.

Agreed.  However that is essentially all statically allocated memory
and the best we can do at this point in time.

Eric
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