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Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 23:39:36 -0700 From: Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org> To: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@...redi.hu> Cc: a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl, linux-mm@...ck.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, neilb@...e.de, dgc@....com, tomoki.sekiyama.qu@...achi.com, nikita@...sterfs.com, trond.myklebust@....uio.no, yingchao.zhou@...il.com Subject: Re: [PATCH 10/10] mm: per device dirty threshold On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 08:29:59 +0200 Miklos Szeredi <miklos@...redi.hu> wrote: > > > What about swapout? That can increase the number of writeback pages, > > > without decreasing the number of dirty pages, no? > > > > Could we not solve that by enabling cap_account_writeback on > > swapper_space, and thereby account swap writeback pages. Then the VM > > knows it has outstanding IO and need not panic. > > Hmm, I'm not sure that would be right, because then those writeback > pages would be accounted twice: once for swapper_space, and once for > the real device. > > So there's a condition, when lots of anonymous pages are turned into > swap-cache writeback pages, and we should somehow throttle this, because > > >>> This means that all memory is pinned and unreclaimable and the VM gets > >>> upset and goes oom. > > although, it's not quite clear in my mind, how the VM gets upset about > this. I've been scratching my head on and off for a couple of days over this. We've traditionally had reclaim problems when there's a huge amount of dirty MAP_SHARED data, which the VM didn't know was dirty. It's the old "map a file which is the same size as physical memory and write to it all" stresstest. But we do not have such problems with anonymous memory, and I'm darned if I can remember why :( - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
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