linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] powerpc pseries eeh: Convert to kthread API

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Message-ID: <20070424172448.GX31947@austin.ibm.com>
Date:	Tue, 24 Apr 2007 12:24:48 -0500
From:	linas@...tin.ibm.com (Linas Vepstas)
To:	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@...nel.crashing.org>
Cc:	Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>,
	"<Andrew Morton" <akpm@...l.org>, containers@...ts.osdl.org,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...sign.ru>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@...ba.org>, linux-s390@...r.kernel.org,
	linuxppc-dev@...abs.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] powerpc pseries eeh: Convert to kthread API

On Tue, Apr 24, 2007 at 11:38:53AM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> > The only reason for using threads here is to get the error recovery
> > out of an interrupt context (where errors may be detected), and then,
> > an hour later, decrement a counter (which is how we limit these to 
> > 6 per hour). Thread reaping is "trivial", the thread just exits
> > after an hour.
> 
> In addition, it should be a thread and not done from within keventd
> because :
> 
>  - It can take a long time (well, relatively but still too long for a
> work queue)

Uhh, 15 or 20 seconds even. That's a long time by any kernel standard.

>  - The driver callbacks might need to use keventd or do flush_workqueue
> to synchronize with their own workqueues when doing an internal
> recovery.
> 
> > Since these are events rare, I've no particular concern about
> > performance or resource consumption. The current code seems 
> > to work just fine. :-)
> 
> I think moving to kthread's is cleaner (just a wrapper around kernel
> threads that simplify dealing with reaping them out mostly) and I agree
> with Christoph that it would be nice to be able to "fire off" kthreads
> from interrupt context.. in many cases, we abuse work queues for things
> that should really done from kthreads instead (basically anything that
> takes more than a couple hundred microsecs or so).

It would be nice to have threads that can be "fired off" from an
interrupt context.  That would simplify the EEH code slightly 
(removing a few dozen lines of code that do this bounce).

I presume that various device drivers might find this useful as well.

--linas

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