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Date:	Wed, 25 Apr 2007 15:11:01 -0700 (PDT)
From:	Kenneth Crudup <kenny@...ix.com>
To:	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>
cc:	Adrian Bunk <bunk@...sta.de>, Nick Piggin <npiggin@...e.de>,
	Mike Galbraith <efault@....de>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Con Kolivas <kernel@...ivas.org>,
	suspend2-devel@...ts.suspend2.net, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>
Subject: Re: suspend2 merge (was Re: [Suspend2-devel] Re: CFS and suspend2:
 hang in atomic copy)


On Wed, 25 Apr 2007, Pavel Machek wrote:

> But ... you are really using suspend-to-disk as a workaround for "my
> desktop takes too much power when idle".

While rare is the day admittedly, that my machine isn't on, there are
days I take a break from loooong days and won't work for 2-5 days at
a time.

My main revenue machine is a laptop with a fast, but last-generation
mobile processor and 2GB of DDR2 SDRAM.

I think it's ridiculous to expect that I could resume off battery (and
this thing is a behemoth, with a 17" screen and backlight and a lot of
little juice-eating peripherals that'll go thru a 4.4A/Hr battery in a
little over 90 mins, even with conservative power settings) after that
kind of delay. I don't even like "suspend to RAM, then suspend to disk
on battery low" 'cause that means when I turn it on again I have a low
battery for an hour and a half.

The only acceptable power usage when (completely) idle, IMO, is *zero*.

	-Kenny

-- 
Kenneth R. Crudup  Sr. SW Engineer, Scott County Consulting, Los Angeles
O: 3630 S. Sepulveda Blvd. #138, L.A., CA 90034-6809      (888) 454-8181
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