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Message-ID: <20070426064806.GA2626@in.ibm.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 12:18:06 +0530
From: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@...ibm.com>
To: Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
<fernando@....ntt.co.jp>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>,
Keith Owens <kaos@....com.au>, akpm@...ux-foundation.org,
kexec@...ts.infradead.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
ak@...e.de, horms@...ge.net.au, mbligh@...gle.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/10] apic_wait_icr_idle issues and possible solutions
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 08:03:04PM +0900, Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao wrote:
>
> static __inline__ void apic_wait_icr_idle(void)
> {
> while (apic_read(APIC_ICR) & APIC_ICR_BUSY)
> cpu_relax();
> }
>
> The busy loop in this function would not be problematic if the
> corresponding status bit in the ICR were always updated, but that does
> not seem to be the case under certain crash scenarios. As an example,
> when the other CPUs are locked-up inside the NMI handler the CPU that
> sends the IPI will end up looping forever in the ICR check, effectively
> hard-locking the whole system.
>
> Quoting from Intel's "MultiProcessor Specification" (Version 1.4), B-3:
>
> "A local APIC unit indicates successful dispatch of an IPI by
> resetting the Delivery Status bit in the Interrupt Command
> Register (ICR). The operating system polls the delivery status
> bit after sending an INIT or STARTUP IPI until the command has
> been dispatched.
>
> A period of 20 microseconds should be sufficient for IPI dispatch
> to complete under normal operating conditions. If the IPI is not
> successfully dispatched, the operating system can abort the
> command. Alternatively, the operating system can retry the IPI by
> writing the lower 32-bit double word of the ICR. This “time-out”
> mechanism can be implemented through an external interrupt, if
> interrupts are enabled on the processor, or through execution of
> an instruction or time-stamp counter spin loop."
>
> Intel's documentation suggests the implementation of a time-out
> mechanism, which, by the way, is already being open-coded in some parts
> of the kernel that tinker with ICR.
>
> --- Possible solutions
>
> * Solution A: Implement the time-out mechanism in apic_wait_icr_idle.
>
> The problem with this approach is that introduces a performance penalty
> that may not be acceptable for some callers of apic_wait_icr_idle.
> Besides, during normal operation delivery errors should not occur. This
> brings us to solution B.
>
Hi Fernando,
How much is the performance penalty? Is it really significant. My point
is that, to me changing apic_wait_icr_dle() itself seems to be the simple
approach instead of introducing another function.
Original implementation is:
static __inline__ void apic_wait_icr_idle(void)
{
while (apic_read(APIC_ICR) & APIC_ICR_BUSY)
cpu_relax();
}
And new one will look something like.
do {
send_status = apic_read(APIC_ICR) & APIC_ICR_BUSY;
if (!send_status)
break;
udelay(100);
} while (timeout++ < 1000);
There will be at max 100 microsecond delay before you realize that IPI has
been dispatched. To optimize it further we can change it to 10 microsecond
delay
do {
send_status = apic_read(APIC_ICR) & APIC_ICR_BUSY;
if (!send_status)
break;
udelay(10);
} while (timeout++ < 10000);
or may be
do {
send_status = apic_read(APIC_ICR) & APIC_ICR_BUSY;
if (!send_status)
break;
udelay(1);
} while (timeout++ < 100000);
I don't know if 1 micro second delay is supported. I do see it being
used in kernel/hpet.c
Is it too much of performance overhead? Somebody who knows more about it
needs to tell. To me changing apic_wait_icr_idle() seems simple instead
of introducing a new function and then making a special case for NMI.
Thanks
Vivek
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