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Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0704262146470.506@yvahk01.tjqt.qr>
Date:	Thu, 26 Apr 2007 21:57:58 +0200 (MEST)
From:	Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@...ux01.gwdg.de>
To:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
cc:	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.21


On Apr 26 2007 09:40, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>On Thu, 26 Apr 2007, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
>>
>For example, I can certainly say that after 2.6.21, I'm likely to be very 
>unhappy merging something that isn't "obviously safe". I knew the timer 
>changes were potentially painful, I just hadn't realized just *how* 
>painful they would be (we had some SATA/IDE changes too, of course, it's 
>not all just about the timers, those just ended up being more noticeable 
>to me than some of the other things were).

Perhaps do one at a time [ at the cost of queueing other stuff, yeah :( ]
Like: 2.6.21 - only NO_HZ & hrtimers, and the SATA code in .22. Probably does
not work out in reality, so perhaps just live with long rc cycles.
(Let rc8 come.)

>So we should have somebody like Christoph running -mm, and when things 
>break, we'll just sic Christoph on whoever broke it, and teach people 
>proper fear and respect! As it is, I think people tend to send things to 
>-mm a bit *too* eagerly, because there is no downside - Andrew is a "cheap 
>date" testing-wise, and always puts out ;)

Yes, perhaps we need a weakchanges-mm ("weak" is inteded, not to be confused
with week) that can carry stuff like doc updates, Kconfig updates, etc. -
patches that are a little more than -trivial.


Jan
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