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Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0704281130200.11638@qynat.qvtvafvgr.pbz>
Date:	Sat, 28 Apr 2007 11:32:52 -0700 (PDT)
From:	David Lang <david.lang@...italinsight.com>
To:	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>
cc:	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Nigel Cunningham <nigel@...el.suspend2.net>,
	Pekka J Enberg <penberg@...helsinki.fi>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...sign.ru>
Subject: Re: Back to the future.

On Sat, 28 Apr 2007, Pavel Machek wrote:

>>
>> We freeze user space processes for the reasons that you have quoted above.
>>
>> Why we freeze kernel threads in there too is a good question, but not for me to
>> answer.  I don't know.  Pavel should know, I think.
>
> We do not want kernel threads running:
>
> a) they may hold some locks and deadlock suspend
>
> b) they may do some writes to disk, leading to corruption
>
> We could solve a) by carefully auditing suspend lock usage to make
> sure deadlocks are impossible even with kernel threads running.

remember that we are doing suspend-to-disk, after we do the snapshot we will be 
doing a shutdown. that should simplify the locking issues

David Lang
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