linux-kernel - Re: Linux 2.6.21

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Message-Id: <200704290114.38094.rjw@sisk.pl>
Date:	Sun, 29 Apr 2007 01:14:36 +0200
From:	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>
To:	Adrian Bunk <bunk@...sta.de>
Cc:	Neil Brown <neilb@...e.de>, "Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@...igh.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Diego Calleja <diegocg@...il.com>,
	Chuck Ebbert <cebbert@...hat.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...l.org>
Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.21

On Sunday, 29 April 2007 00:33, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 08:11:30AM +1000, Neil Brown wrote:
> > On Saturday April 28, mbligh@...igh.org wrote:
> >...
> > > As Andrew has pointed out before though - even though he forwards
> > > the bugs, nobody does anything with it. The sad truth seems to be
> > > that people have very little interest in fixing bugs when they are
> > > reported - it's not sexy, I guess.
> > 
> > Not sexy, and also not at all easy.   A lot of the interesting bugs
> > seem to be subtle interactions between separate parts of the kernel -
> > one part making an assumption or exhibiting a behaviour that the other
> > part didn't expect.  And we all know that writing bug^Wcode is easier
> > than removing bugs.  I can spend hour and hours reading through code
> > trying to get the big picture, and end up finding a one-line change
> > that then needs documenting, testing and external review.  It's not
> > easy.
> > 
> > > I'm still unconvinced the users or the tool are the problem, but if it
> > > makes you happier, we can do that.
> > 
> > No, they aren't the problem.  Bugs are the problem.  But they might be
> > a more effective part of the solution.
> > 
> > My perception of the kernel bugzilla is that visibility is very low.
> > 
> > I think there is value in weekly reminders, and I wouldn't mind seeing
> > a weekly Email on linux-kernel with something like a list of open bugs
> > that have not seen any activity in between 1 and 2 weeks.  It might
> > get someone out-of-area interested, and might be noticed by someone
> > who thinks they are in-area and get them wondering why they didn't
> > find out when the bug was first reported.
> 
> The 100 kB email limit has to be lifted for this... 
> 
> More seriously, there are > 1000 open bugs in the kernel Bugzilla 
> without any activity during the last 2 weeks.
> 
> The problem is usually either "Not sexy, and also not at all easy." or
> "no maintainer".

Please add "limited human resources" to this list.

Greetings,
Rafael
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