linux-kernel - Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo-authorities

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Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0704301742390.2985@pentafluge.infradead.org>
Date:	Mon, 30 Apr 2007 17:56:17 +0100 (BST)
From:	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@...radead.org>
To:	Helge Hafting <helge.hafting@...el.hist.no>
cc:	Uwe Bugla <uwe.bugla@....de>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	torvalds@...ux-foundation.org, akpm@...ux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and
 pseudo-authorities

Hi Helge and others,

On Mon, 30 Apr 2007, Helge Hafting wrote:

>> what the consequence is. To be truthful I would strategically prefare a 
>> vacuum at the price that the work isn't even done for months.
>> ONLY IF there is a personnel vacuum the necessity for others to volunteer 
>> will arise.
>> 
> A sufficiently bad maintainer will also do it.  If lots of submitters send
> their patches to andrew in order to get past a dysfunctional maintainer,
> then the subsystem effectively is unmaintained.

The point is that Uwe patch will generate regressions by breaking for 
Twinhan. His patch just removes compilation for dst and dst_ca on Kconfig, 
without taking care or driver internals. So, two initialization functions 
won't be called by symbol_request(). Although those two functions will be 
undefined, as the dvb will do the linkedition at module runtume (if 
DVB_ATTACH is selected), modprobe won't detect the lack of those functions.
At the end, cards with ST chips (DST and/or DST CA) will stop working, 
without even printing a warning.

I've tried to explain this to Uwe several times, but, at the end, he 
always start insulting me and/or other developers.

Cheers,
Mauro.
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