linux-kernel - Re: arch/i386/boot rewrite, and all the hard-coded video cards

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Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0705022017360.18504@yvahk01.tjqt.qr>
Date:	Wed, 2 May 2007 20:22:23 +0200 (MEST)
From:	Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@...ux01.gwdg.de>
To:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
cc:	Rene Herman <rene.herman@...il.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@...e.de>, Jeff Garzik <jeff@...zik.org>,
	Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@...p.org>
Subject: Re: arch/i386/boot rewrite, and all the hard-coded video cards


On May 1 2007 14:41, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>On Tue, 1 May 2007, Rene Herman wrote:
>> 
>> The answer will probably be "no", but would this be a good point to ask if
>> this would be a good time to not bother with the mode switching code at all
>> anymore?
>
>The standard extended modes are actually really useful, if for a very 
>simply reason: they give you bigger more lines on screen when a bug 
>happens.
>
>So I _still_ occasionally use "vga=extended" just for that reason. The  
>default 80x25 thing scrolls most oops away.
>[...]
>80x50 is useful for the above reason. Yeah, it's ugly, but it's useful for 
>the "It's too much work to try to do anything but just take a digital 
>photo of the screen". And that 50-line mode will actually be 43 in EGA 
>mode, I think.
>
>The 132x50 mode is probably a bit prettier, and is fairly common too, and 
>useful for the same reason.

Seconded. 80x50, and where platforms support it, *80x60 and 132x60*,
is kinda handy (despite the font getting smaller and smaller, heh),
esp. when you don't run it in VMware and not have some capturing
device (serial con/netconsole.. takes time to set up)

>And yes, I'm literally talking about the *text* modes. Not all of us want 
>to have fbcon built in - I prefer my text-mode lean and mean and fast as 
>hell, and if I want a frame buffer, I'll take X11, thank you very much.

You speak for me :)



Jan
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