lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Message-ID: <4639520E.8020807@cs.umass.edu>
Date:	Wed, 02 May 2007 23:07:58 -0400
From:	Ting Yang <tingy@...umass.edu>
To:	"Li, Tong N" <tong.n.li@...el.com>
CC:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	William Lee Irwin III <wli@...omorphy.com>
Subject: Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v8



Li, Tong N wrote:
> Thanks for the excellent explanation. I think EEVDF and many algs alike
> assume global ordering of all tasks in the system (based on virtual
> time), whereas CFS does so locally on each processor and relies on load
> balancing to achieve fairness across processors. It'd achieve strong
> fairness locally, but I'm not sure about its global fairness properties
> in an MP environment. If ideally the total load weight on each processor
> is always the same, then local fairness would imply global fairness, but
> this is a bin packing problem and is intractable ...
First, I am not assuming a global ordering of all tasks. As the current 
implementation, EEVDF should maintain virtual time locally for each CPU. 
EEVDF is a proportional  time share scheduler, therefore the relative 
weight and actual cpu share for each task varies when tasks join and 
leave. There will be not bin-pack problem for such systems.

I understand that bin-pack problem does exist in Real-time world. 
Suppose in a system has 2 cpus,  there a 3 tasks, all of which needs to 
finish 30ms work within a window of 50ms. Any 2 of them stay together 
will exceeds the bandwidth of one cpu. There is a bin-pack problem, 
unless the system has to be clever enough to break one of them down into 
2 requests of 15ms/25ms, and execute them on different cpus at different 
time without overlap, which is quite difficult :-)

In the proportional world, weights and cpu share are scale to fit with 
the bandwidth of a cpu. Therefore putting 2 of them on one cpu is fine, 
and the fairness for each cpu is preserved. On the other hand, moving 
one task back and forth among 2 cpus do give better throughput and 
better global fairness. I have not dig into the load balancing 
algorithms of SMP yet, so I leave it aside for now, first thing first :-)

Thanks !

Ting
-
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ