linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] LogFS take three

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Message-ID: <20070516135318.GK5472@lazybastard.org>
Date:	Wed, 16 May 2007 15:53:19 +0200
From:	Jörn Engel <joern@...ybastard.org>
To:	John Stoffel <john@...ffel.org>
Cc:	Jamie Lokier <jamie@...reable.org>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@...radead.org>, akpm@...l.org,
	Evgeniy Polyakov <johnpol@....mipt.ru>,
	Albert Cahalan <acahalan@...il.com>, Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Ingo Oeser <ioe-lkml@...eria.de>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@...helsinki.fi>,
	linux-mtd@...ts.infradead.org,
	Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@...ux01.gwdg.de>,
	linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] LogFS take three

On Wed, 16 May 2007 09:41:10 -0400, John Stoffel wrote:
> JÃ¶rn> On Wed, 16 May 2007 12:34:34 +0100, Jamie Lokier wrote:
> 
> JÃ¶rn> How many of you have worked for IBM before?  Vowels are not
> evil. ;)
> 
> Nope, they're not.  I just think that LogFS isn't descriptive enough,
> or more accurately, is the *wrong* description of this filesystem.  

That was the whole point.  JFFS2, the journaling flash filesystem, is a
strictly log-structured filesystem.  LogFS has a journal.

It is also the filesystem that tries to scale logarithmically, as Arnd
has noted.  Maybe I should call it Log2 to emphesize this point.  Log1
would be horrible scalability.

> flashfs works for me.  It's longer, but hey, that's ok.  Even flshfs
> might work.  Oh wait, flesh?  flash?  flush?  Too confusing... :-)   

Maybe.  FFS or flash filesystem already exists.  And YAFFS, yet another
flash filesystem, would be older than flashfs.

My experience is that no matter which name I pick, people will complain
anyway.  Previous suggestions included:
jffs3
jefs
engelfs
poofs
crapfs
sweetfs
cutefs
dynamic journaling fs - djofs
tfsfkal - the file system formerly known as logfs

Plus today:
FFFS
flashfs
fredfs
bob
shizzle

Imo they all suck.  LogFS also sucks, but it allows me to make a stupid
joke and keep my logfs.org domain.

Jörn

-- 
There are two ways of constructing a software design: one way is to make
it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other is
to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies.
-- C. A. R. Hoare
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