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Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0705201305580.20754@anakin>
Date:	Sun, 20 May 2007 13:07:20 +0200 (CEST)
From:	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@...ux-m68k.org>
To:	Russell King <rmk+lkml@....linux.org.uk>
Cc:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Adrian Bunk <bunk@...sta.de>, Sam Ravnborg <sam@...nborg.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Roman Zippel <zippel@...ux-m68k.org>
Subject: Re: RFC: kconfig select warnings bogus?

On Sun, 20 May 2007, Russell King wrote:
> On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 04:22:39PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > On Sun, 20 May 2007 01:05:37 +0200 Adrian Bunk <bunk@...sta.de> wrote:
> > > Look for example at the last one in drivers/input/mouse/Kconfig:
> > > 
> > > config MOUSE_ATARI
> > >         tristate "Atari mouse"
> > >         depends on ATARI
> > >         select ATARI_KBD_CORE
> > > 
> > > This is perfectly correct (the select'ed symbol is only unavailable when 
> > > the dependency can't be fulfilled), and all things to "fix" the warning 
> > > will make it worse.
> > 
> > If ATARI is unset then we shouldn't be generating the "'select' used by
> > config symbol 'KEYBOARD_ATARI' refers to undefined symbol 'ATARI_KBD_CORE'"
> > warnings, should we?
> 
> Playing devils advocate here.  What if "ATARI_KBD_CORE" never exists?
> Let's say you run 'make kconfig' and you select the ATARI option.  When
> does the lack of ATARI_KBD_CORE get noticed and what is the expected
> result?
> 
> Let's put it another way.  Given the complexities of the configuration
> system as it is today, if we do not generate a warning at parse time,
> how do we find things like:
> 
> config SHARPSL_PM
>         bool
>         select APM_EMULATION
> 
> config PXA_SHARP_C7xx
>         bool
>         select PXA_SSP
>         select SHARPSL_PM
> 
> config MACH_CORGI
>         bool "Enable Sharp SL-C700 (Corgi) Support"
>         depends on PXA_SHARPSL_25x
>         select PXA_SHARP_C7xx
> 
> and (lets say for the sake of argument) APM_EMULATION were to go away.

It will probably fail to build :-)

> Do we really need an exhaustive set of configuration combinations to
> run through Kconfig to find possible missing symbols?  Or do we need a
> Kconfig lint to find them?

Now let's say PXA_SHARPSL_25x goes away (or someone made a typo
in her `depends on')...

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

						Geert

--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@...ux-m68k.org

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