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Message-Id: <200705251623.55551.jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>
Date:	Fri, 25 May 2007 16:23:55 -0700
From:	Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@...tuousgeek.org>
To:	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>
Cc:	Ben Collins <ben.collins@...ntu.com>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@...stfloor.org>,
	Ben Collins <bcollins@...ntu.com>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/6] i386/x86_64: Allow disabling the putstr's from	compressed boot wrapper

On Friday, May 25, 2007 12:45:40 H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> Ben Collins wrote:
> > On Fri, 2007-05-25 at 13:33 +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
> >> Ben Collins <bcollins@...ntu.com> writes:
> >>
> >> Why?
> >
> > Because there's no other way to make the kernel totally quiet. We've
> > been patching this out so that the boot sequence has that "clean look".
> >
> > Other than that, it's useless :)
>
> Worse than that, it's harmful.
>
> "Clean look" means "undebuggable."

But how often do you have to debug bootloader or compressed boot code?  In 
fact, most debug output like this isn't very useful after some initial 
debugging, so we usually take it out.  I'm not sure why this would be any 
different...

Jesse


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