linux-kernel - Re: pcmcia resume 60 second hang. Re: [patch 00/69] -stable review

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Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.0.98.0705242147090.26602@woody.linux-foundation.org>
Date:	Thu, 24 May 2007 21:49:58 -0700 (PDT)
From:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
To:	Nigel Cunningham <nigel@...el.suspend2.net>
cc:	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>,
	Romano Giannetti <romanol@...omillas.es>,
	Chris Wright <chrisw@...s-sol.org>,
	Chuck Ebbert <cebbert@...hat.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	stable@...nel.org, Justin Forbes <jmforbes@...uxtx.org>,
	Zwane Mwaikambo <zwane@....linux.org.uk>,
	"Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@....edu>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@...otime.net>,
	Dave Jones <davej@...hat.com>,
	Chuck Wolber <chuckw@...ntumlinux.com>,
	Chris Wedgwood <reviews@...cw.f00f.org>,
	Michael Krufky <mkrufky@...uxtv.org>,
	akpm@...ux-foundation.org, alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>
Subject: Re: pcmcia resume 60 second hang. Re: [patch 00/69] -stable review

On Fri, 25 May 2007, Nigel Cunningham wrote:
> 
> Does that mean you never ever power off your laptop (assuming you have
> one), and the battery never runs out? Surely you must power it off
> completely sometimes?

So? The bootup isn't that much worse than a disk suspend/resume, and it's 
reliable.

And actually, I don't use laptops much. I use mostly desktops, and STR 
works fine on at least some of them. In contrast, doing some 
suspend-to-disk thing would just be insane and idiotic. If I have to wait 
for half a minute and have a slow system even after that because my git 
trees aren't in the cache, I really might as well just shut them off.

In contrast, STR means they are quiet and don't waste energy when I don't 
use them, but they're instantly available when I care. HUGE difference.

I really think suspend-to-disk is just a total waste of my time.

		Linus
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