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Message-ID: <20070524144028.GA3920@ucw.cz>
Date:	Thu, 24 May 2007 14:40:28 +0000
From:	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>
To:	Crispin Cowan <crispin@...ell.com>
Cc:	Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu, Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@....com>,
	Toshiharu Harada <haradats@...il.com>,
	James Morris <jmorris@...ei.org>, casey@...aufler-ca.com,
	Andreas Gruenbacher <agruen@...e.de>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [AppArmor 01/41] Pass struct vfsmount to the inode_create LSM hook

Hi!

> >> Average users are not supposed to be writing security policy.  To be  
> >> honest, even average-level system administrators should not be  
> >> writing security policy.
> That explains so much! "SELinux: you're too dumb to use it, so just keep
> your hands in your pockets." :-)
> 
> AppArmor was designed to allow your average sys admin to write a
> security policy. It makes different design choices than SELinux to
> achieve that goal. As a result, AppArmor is an utter failure when
> compared to SELinux's goals, and SELinux in turn is an utter failure
> when compared to AppArmor's goals.

I'd not be that sure. SELinux can read AA config files, with some
performance problems and bad problems with new files.

I bet solving the 'new files' problem is not going to take 20% of AA's
size...
							Pavel
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