linux-kernel - Re: gmail is a bit too popular..

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Message-ID: <20070604122716.GU5500@stusta.de>
Date:	Mon, 4 Jun 2007 14:27:16 +0200
From:	Adrian Bunk <bunk@...sta.de>
To:	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@...radead.org>
Cc:	Matti Aarnio <matti.aarnio@...iler.org>,
	"John Anthony Kazos Jr." <jakj@...-k-j.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: gmail is a bit too popular..

On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 11:55:32AM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 08:43 +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > BTW (not related to gmail):
> > Are there any news regarding the buggy 451 handling in zmailer I'm 
> > reporting again and again that regularly results in every single 
> > linux-kernel message sent to me being delayed by up to 13 hours? 
> 
> Er, you're giving it a 451 response to _every_ message? Why?

Not me, a MTA 4 hops away on the way to me.

And not on _every_ message, it is more like "randomly one out of 
100 messages gets an 451 4.3.2 system not accepting network messages".

That's a perfectly legal behaviour considering that RFC 3463 gives 
"immanent shutdown, excessive load, or system maintenance" (which are 
for the sending MTA equal to "random") as example causes for this 
response.

The problem is really that Zmailer on vger under some circumstances 
never retries to send these emails for days, on one occasion the emails 
bounced after 5 days without any retry.

> dwmw2

cu
Adrian

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