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Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0706051523580.20829@yvahk01.tjqt.qr>
Date:	Tue, 5 Jun 2007 15:25:07 +0200 (MEST)
From:	Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@...ux01.gwdg.de>
To:	Takashi Iwai <tiwai@...e.de>
cc:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Uwe Bugla <uwe.bugla@....de>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Jaroslav Kysela <perex@...e.cz>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@...radead.org>
Subject: Re: BUG in 2.6.22-rc2-mm1: Parts of Alsa sound architecture broken


>> > >Well, I find the change of CONFIG_SND to menuconfig is fine, too.
>> > >But CONFIG_SND_PCI_DRIVERS and others don't make much sense to me.
>> > >How is it useful at all?
>> > 
>> > Hah, I just tell you some of my own experience.
>> > In summer 2003, I bought the last new machine, and it got these
>> > shiny new ports they like to call USB. :)
>> > I did not have much use for it, but I left it on - you never know
>> > what standard next is the big win of the decade. And actually,
>> > it did not took long (well, summer 2005) to get my first USB device.
>> > Still, I am hell as sure I do not have USB-based sound devices
>> > anytime soon, so it would be cool to deactivate the whole usbsound
>> > menu at once. I think I said that in the patch description, did not I?
>> 
>> But it's not cool to add an extra config item just for that, too.
>> And, the structure of menuconfig-if-endif is uglier than menu-endmenu.
>> That's why I feel a bit uneasy, although all these are a matter of
>> taste...
>
>Forgot to mention about another annoying drawback.  Because of the new
>CONFIG_SND_*_DRIVERS, you'll have to re-select all belonging
>CONFIG_SND_*, even via config oldconfig.  Putting the dependency on
>the top seems to reset the values defined in the old .config.

Well, *I* (previously) submitted patches with  "default y", but Jens 
Axboe [http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/5/12/164] disagreed heavily enough to 
stop that practice.


	Jan
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