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Date:	Wed, 6 Jun 2007 21:14:26 +0200
From:	Oleg Verych <olecom@...wer.upol.cz>
To:	Sam Ravnborg <sam@...nborg.org>
Cc:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	kbuild-devel@...ts.sourceforge.net,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Another version of cleanfile/cleanpatch

On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 07:50:26PM +0200, Sam Ravnborg wrote:
[]
> > Many things in XXI century still can be done by tools founded 20-30
> > years ago. Why not try to?
> 
> Because your shell script is unreadable by normal human beings[*]
> while the perl script for people with a bit of perl fu can read it
> and fix/modify it.
> 
> We want tools that can be maintained and enhanced by most people.
> 
> [*] Normal human beings are people with same level of shell
> scripting/sed skills that I have just to put that straight.

In many cases i think, it's limiting one's imagination and expanding
laziness[0].

In the school algebra (usually) there are many exercises with
plain-useless equations and formulas you must solve or simplify.
Guess why? Thus my proposition. ;)

---
[0] Now, when most UNIX tools done with good quality (courtesy of the
    GNU project), it's time not to convert programmer's laziness[1] to
    ordinary one. Why there's one big and slow Bourne again shell, yet
    to have fast ([d]ash) and tiny one took more time? As result more
    efforts to remove bashizms...

[1] Ironically connected to Perl chapter of UNIX Power Tools
    <http://unix.org.ua/orelly/unix/upt/ch37_02.htm>
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