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Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.0.98.0706141301340.14121@woody.linux-foundation.org>
Date:	Thu, 14 Jun 2007 13:03:58 -0700 (PDT)
From:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
To:	Alexandre Oliva <aoliva@...hat.com>
cc:	Kevin Fox <Kevin.Fox@....gov>,
	Daniel Hazelton <dhazelton@...er.net>,
	Lennart Sorensen <lsorense@...lub.uwaterloo.ca>,
	Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>,
	debian developer <debiandev@...il.com>,
	"david@...g.hm" <david@...g.hm>,
	Tarkan Erimer <tarkan@...one.net.tr>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>, mingo@...e.hu
Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3



On Thu, 14 Jun 2007, Alexandre Oliva wrote:
> 
> > Only with the GPLv3.
> 
> This is not true.  The terms of the GPLv2 that say you can't impose
> further restrictions on the exercise of the freedoms apply to the
> software under GPLv2 and GPLv3 just the same way.

The GPLv2 talks *only* about the software. You're making everything else 
up, and when I point out that your reading of the GPLv2 is insane, you 
just ignore my proofs of your internal inconsistency.

> So can you please explain to me how enabling TiVO to deny others the
> freedom that it received "in kind", failing to keep with the "in kind"
> spirit of the GPL, encourage people to work together, and to merge?

Because Tivo *IS NOT DENYING* those freedoms.

Tivo *respected* the freedoms, and gave source back, and gave you all the 
same rights you had to Linux originally, and to their modifications.

How stupid are you to not acknowledge that?

Tivo limited their *hardware*, not the software.

		Linus
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