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Date:	Fri, 15 Jun 2007 10:19:10 +1000
From:	Bron Gondwana <brong@...tmail.fm>
To:	Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@...il.com>
Cc:	Dave Neuer <mr.fred.smoothie@...ox.com>,
	Lennart Sorensen <lsorense@...lub.uwaterloo.ca>,
	Alexandre Oliva <aoliva@...hat.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>,
	debian developer <debiandev@...il.com>,
	"david@...g.hm" <david@...g.hm>,
	Tarkan Erimer <tarkan@...one.net.tr>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>, mingo@...e.hu
Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 05:25:19PM -0400, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> On 6/14/07, Dave Neuer <mr.fred.smoothie@...ox.com> wrote:
>> On 6/14/07, Lennart Sorensen <lsorense@...lub.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
>> > Nothing prevents you from taking tivos kernel
>> > changes and building your own hardware to run that code on, and as such
>> > the spirit of the GPL v2 seems fulfilled.
>>
>> Oh, come on: you're not serious, right? Something indeed prevents me
>> -- the fact that I'm not a hardware manufacturer, I don't have fabs,
>> outsource vendors to provide me w/ designs, ASICs, etc. Nor to I have
>> the money to pay one-off prices for various components if they're even
>> available in batches that small.
>>
>
> So your objection here is that one needs additional resources to do
> excersise their rights. Well, what about spending time and money to
> get education to be able to do programming work? Being able to
> understand C and hardware, etc is also an additional restriction
> imposed on an average person. Do you advocate that every copy of GPL
> program should be accompanied with an engineer who would explain how
> it all works?

Yes please.  Can she be spunky as well?  ta.
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