linux-kernel - Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

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Message-ID: <orwsy5ypkp.fsf@oliva.athome.lsd.ic.unicamp.br>
Date:	Fri, 15 Jun 2007 16:39:50 -0300
From:	Alexandre Oliva <aoliva@...hat.com>
To:	"Jesper Juhl" <jesper.juhl@...il.com>
Cc:	"Daniel Hazelton" <dhazelton@...er.net>,
	"Chris Friesen" <cfriesen@...tel.com>,
	"Paul Mundt" <lethal@...ux-sh.org>,
	"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	"Lennart Sorensen" <lsorense@...lub.uwaterloo.ca>,
	"Greg KH" <greg@...ah.com>,
	"debian developer" <debiandev@...il.com>,
	"david\@lang.hm" <david@...g.hm>,
	"Tarkan Erimer" <tarkan@...one.net.tr>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>, mingo@...e.hu
Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

On Jun 15, 2007, "Jesper Juhl" <jesper.juhl@...il.com> wrote:

> On 15/06/07, Alexandre Oliva <aoliva@...hat.com> wrote:
>> On Jun 14, 2007, Daniel Hazelton <dhazelton@...er.net> wrote:
>> 
>> > Faulty logic. The hardware doesn't *restrict* you from *MODIFYING*
>> > any fscking thing.

>> case 2'': tivo provides source, end user tries to improve it, realizes
>> the hardware won't let him use the result of his efforts, and gives up

> So?  The user still has the source and is free to use that in other
> GPLv2 projects, that's the point.

This point of yours is a distraction from the argument in this
sub-thread.


These cases were Chris Friesen's attempt to show that GPLv2 was
tit-for-tat, and case 2'' shows it isn't, at least not in the sense he
tried to picture it:


On Jun 14, 2007, "Chris Friesen" <cfriesen@...tel.com> wrote:

> Alexandre Oliva wrote:

>> That's where Linus' theory of tit-for-tat falls apart.

> Nope.

> case 1:  Upstream provides source, tivo modifies and distributes it
> (to their customers).

> case 2: tivo provides source, end user modifies and distributes it
> (possibly to their customers, maybe to friends, possibly even to
> upstream).

> See?  Tit for tat.

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