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Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0706142157420.30954-100000@netrider.rowland.org>
Date:	Thu, 14 Jun 2007 22:00:35 -0400 (EDT)
From:	Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>
To:	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>
cc:	David Brownell <david-b@...bell.net>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>, LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -mm 6/7] PM: Remove power_state.event checks from suspend
 core code

On Fri, 15 Jun 2007, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:

> On Thursday, 14 June 2007 16:21, David Brownell wrote:
> > On Wednesday 13 June 2007, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > From: Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@...k.pl>
> > > 
> > > The suspend routines should be called for every device during a system sleep
> > > transition, regardless of the device's state, so that drivers can regard these
> > > method calls as notifications that the system is about to go to sleep, rather
> > > than as directives to put their devices into the 'off' state.
> > 
> > Did you audit all the drivers to make sure this won't break things?
> > Like for example through inappropriate pci_save_state() calls?
> 
> I did, but not very carefully.
> 
> > I'd really expect this patch would break things...
> 
> Well, in that case I'll have a closer look at them.

It might not be all that bad.  One would expect problems to occur only 
in cases where devices were already suspended at the time of a system 
sleep transition.  Since relatively few drivers currently implement 
runtime PM -- and those that do are likely to be more careful about 
not blindly making state changes -- there might not be too much 
trouble.

Alan Stern

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