linux-kernel - Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

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Message-Id: <1181968317.21803.528.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Date:	Sat, 16 Jun 2007 12:31:57 +0800
From:	Tim Post <tim.post@...kinetics.net>
To:	Alexandre Oliva <aoliva@...hat.com>
Cc:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>, Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Daniel Hazelton <dhazelton@...er.net>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>,
	debian developer <debiandev@...il.com>, david@...g.hm,
	Tarkan Erimer <tarkan@...one.net.tr>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

On Sat, 2007-06-16 at 00:44 -0300, Alexandre Oliva wrote:
> On Jun 16, 2007, Tim Post <tim.post@...kinetics.net> wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 2007-06-15 at 23:29 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> >> Tivo has two choices: either it gives 
> >> users the content they want to watch, or it goes out of business. Is 
> >> that legitimate enough of a reason to restrict the hardware?
> 
> > Can I submit that they could just rent the use of their machines?
> 
> I don't think this would escape the wording of section 6 in GPLv3dd4:
> 
>   [...] User Product is transferred to the recipient in perpetuity or
>   for a fixed term (regardless of how the transaction is
>   characterized), [...]
> 
> and IMHO that's as it should be to defend the freedoms of the user.
> 

Yes, I think you're right. There may be no good solution for tivo.

I'm not yet ready to give up on middle ground! :) I'll just have to work
harder if I'm to think of it. I refuse to accept a situation where the
only good outcome results in people being hurt, one way or another.

You might see that as futility, it could very well be. But I feel
obligated to keep looking and thinking because I can.

My head hurts.

Best,
--Tim

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