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Message-ID: <orlkeks427.fsf@oliva.athome.lsd.ic.unicamp.br>
Date:	Sat, 16 Jun 2007 05:21:04 -0300
From:	Alexandre Oliva <aoliva@...hat.com>
To:	Daniel Hazelton <dhazelton@...er.net>
Cc:	Tim Post <tim.post@...kinetics.net>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>,
	debian developer <debiandev@...il.com>, david@...g.hm,
	Tarkan Erimer <tarkan@...one.net.tr>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

On Jun 16, 2007, Daniel Hazelton <dhazelton@...er.net> wrote:

> On Friday 15 June 2007 23:44:00 Alexandre Oliva wrote:
>> On Jun 16, 2007, Tim Post <tim.post@...kinetics.net> wrote:
>> > On Fri, 2007-06-15 at 23:29 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>> >> Tivo has two choices: either it gives
>> >> users the content they want to watch, or it goes out of business. Is
>> >> that legitimate enough of a reason to restrict the hardware?
>> >
>> > Can I submit that they could just rent the use of their machines?
>> 
>> I don't think this would escape the wording of section 6 in GPLv3dd4:
>> 
>> [...] User Product is transferred to the recipient in perpetuity or
>> for a fixed term (regardless of how the transaction is
>> characterized), [...]
>> 
>> and IMHO that's as it should be to defend the freedoms of the user.

> In the case of renting a machine you can try to legislate new laws all you 
> want. It doesn't make a difference. There are certain rights you don't get 
> when renting something that you do when you own it.

You mean renting the computer with the software in it is not
distribution of the software?

-- 
Alexandre Oliva         http://www.lsd.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/
FSF Latin America Board Member         http://www.fsfla.org/
Red Hat Compiler Engineer   aoliva@...dhat.com, gcc.gnu.org}
Free Software Evangelist  oliva@...d.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org}
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