Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.0.98.0706181232230.3593@woody.linux-foundation.org>
Date:	Mon, 18 Jun 2007 12:43:14 -0700 (PDT)
From:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
To:	Alexandre Oliva <aoliva@...hat.com>
cc:	Al Viro <viro@....linux.org.uk>,
	Bernd Schmidt <bernds_cb1@...nline.de>,
	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Daniel Hazelton <dhazelton@...er.net>,
	Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>,
	debian developer <debiandev@...il.com>, david@...g.hm,
	Tarkan Erimer <tarkan@...one.net.tr>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3



On Mon, 18 Jun 2007, Alexandre Oliva wrote:
> 
> We can agree to disagree as to our opinions, if you want.

That's all I ever asked for.

This whole thread started with me saying:

  I see the smiley, but I hate it how the FSF thinks others are morons and
  cannot read or think for themselves.

  Any time you disagree with the FSF, you "misunderstand" (insert
  condescending voice) the issue.

  _Please_ don't continue that idiocy. Disagreement and thinking that the
  FSF is controlling and putting its fingers where they don't belong is
  _not_ misunderstanding. It's just not "blind and unquestioning obedience".

so all I asked for in the first place was that you stop claiming that I 
had "misunderstood" anything.

That's really all I've always asked for:

 - I chose the GPLv2, and I understand it.

 - you don't have to agree with my choice, but you *do* have to accept it
   if you want to work on Linux. Because it's the only license that Linux 
   has ever been released under since early 1992.

So as long as you follow the GPLv2 (as a _legal_ license), I don't care if 
you like it or not. I don't care if you think you are a modern-day 
Napoleon, or if you are a demented squirrel. I don't care if you are an 
axe-murderer, or if you make sex toys with Linux. I don't care if your 
hardware is open or closed.

I care about one thing, and one thing only: I care that you respect my 
choice of license for the projects _I_ started. Nothing more.

And it doesn't matter one whit if *you* would have made a different 
choice. You are not me. You don't hold any power over me, and *your* 
choices are your own - not mine.

Choice of license is personal. Many people think that the BSD license is 
better than _any_ version of the GPL. Are they wrong? No, it's _their_ 
choice. Is it relevant for the kernel? No, their preference of license is 
simply irrelevant. They can choose to accept the license that the kernel 
is under, or go play somewhere else.

I think the GPLv2 is superior to the GPLv3.  That is simply not something 
you can argue against. You can just say "ok, it's your choice". You can 
ask me *why*, and I've told you at length, but in the end, it doesn't 
matter. 

And no, it's not because I'm "special", and I get to make all decisions. 
It's simply because I am _me_, and when it comes to my own opinions, I 
actually _do_ get to make all the decisions.

You can disagree, and choose to use the GPLv3. You just cannot do it for 
the *kernel*, because they kernel has always been under the GPLv2, and the 
GPLv3 is simply not compatible, and asks for things that the kernel 
license has never asked for.

But if you prefer the GPLv3, that's _your_ choice, and that choice can 
certainly guide you in the licensing of _your_ projects where _you_ are 
the copyright holder. And I will never complain.

		Linus
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