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Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0706181634560.14890@asgard.lang.hm>
Date:	Mon, 18 Jun 2007 16:39:20 -0700 (PDT)
From:	david@...g.hm
To:	Johannes Stezenbach <js@...uxtv.org>
cc:	Alexandre Oliva <aoliva@...hat.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@....linux.org.uk>,
	Bernd Schmidt <bernds_cb1@...nline.de>,
	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Daniel Hazelton <dhazelton@...er.net>,
	Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>,
	debian developer <debiandev@...il.com>,
	Tarkan Erimer <tarkan@...one.net.tr>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

On Tue, 19 Jun 2007, Johannes Stezenbach wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 18, 2007, Alexandre Oliva wrote:
>>
>> People talk a lot about TiVo here, but do they the faintest idea of
>> how the conversations with TiVo are proceeding?  I thought so...
>
> Oh, if you know something we don't, could you please fill us in?
> And who was it who coined the "Tivoization" term, thus putting
> TiVo into focus?

what conversations are going on?

Tivo checked years ago and were told that what they were going to do was 
Ok. I don't know thatanyone is talking too Tivo about anything. they are 
just screaming about how evil Tivo is at every public opportunity.

David Lang

>> But since the software is good, and moving to another software would be 
>> costly in various dimentions, the vendor has an incentive to stick with 
>> the software they have.

but if regulations or other contracts require tamper-resistant hardware 
they have no choices other then to fork the existing GPLv2 versions or 
switch to alternate options for anything that switches to GPLv3

David Lang
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