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Message-ID: <or645j1wjm.fsf@oliva.athome.lsd.ic.unicamp.br>
Date:	Tue, 19 Jun 2007 18:09:17 -0300
From:	Alexandre Oliva <aoliva@...hat.com>
To:	david@...g.hm
Cc:	Daniel Hazelton <dhazelton@...er.net>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@....linux.org.uk>,
	Bernd Schmidt <bernds_cb1@...nline.de>,
	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>, Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>,
	debian developer <debiandev@...il.com>,
	Tarkan Erimer <tarkan@...one.net.tr>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

On Jun 19, 2007, david@...g.hm wrote:

> based on my experiance looking at the software released for tivos, I
> think you are over-estimating these numbers. if there are more then a
> dozen people producing things that are good enough to be useful and
> releasing their results as opensource software I would be surprised.

Yup.

And how many more would there be should it not be tivoized?  More
hackers would buy the devices, a number of them with the explicit
intent and interest in modifying the software in it.

You're losing all that.

> and for all that the FSF is claiming that tivos can't being modified
> it's really not that hard to change.

But is it legal?

How many would contribute changes to a list where there are TiVo
people watching, which might expose these contributors to liabilities?

-- 
Alexandre Oliva         http://www.lsd.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/
FSF Latin America Board Member         http://www.fsfla.org/
Red Hat Compiler Engineer   aoliva@...dhat.com, gcc.gnu.org}
Free Software Evangelist  oliva@...d.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org}
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