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Date:	Tue, 19 Jun 2007 15:50:33 -0700 (PDT)
From:	david@...g.hm
To:	Alexandre Oliva <aoliva@...hat.com>
cc:	Daniel Hazelton <dhazelton@...er.net>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@....linux.org.uk>,
	Bernd Schmidt <bernds_cb1@...nline.de>,
	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>, Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>,
	debian developer <debiandev@...il.com>,
	Tarkan Erimer <tarkan@...one.net.tr>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

On Tue, 19 Jun 2007, Alexandre Oliva wrote:

> On Jun 19, 2007, david@...g.hm wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 19 Jun 2007, Alexandre Oliva wrote:
>>>
>>> Once again, now with clearer starting conditions (not intended to
>>> match TiVo in any way, BTW; don't get into that distraction)
>>>
>>>
>>> Vendor doesn't care about tivoizing, their business works the same
>>> either way.
>>>
>>> Vendor's employees will contribute the same, one way or another, so
>>> their contributions are out of the equation.
>
>> no, this is what you are missing.
>
> No, this is just one of many possible situations.
>
> You're just thinking of a different scenario, in which tivoization is
> important for the tivoizer.  We'll get to that.
>
> Please be patient.  Don't get the illusion that you're disputing or
> weakening the argument with these statements.  Disputing premises of a
> logical inference is pointless as far as disputing a larger argument
> that this particular lemma would be a part of.

if a company doesn't care about tivoizing then they won't do it, it takes 
time and money to tivoize some product and it will cause headaches for the 
company.

their reasons for wanting to tivoize a product may be faulty, but they 
think that the reasons are valid or they wouldn't go to the effort.

David Lang
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