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Message-ID: <orsl8mtkb9.fsf@oliva.athome.lsd.ic.unicamp.br>
Date:	Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:58:18 -0300
From:	Alexandre Oliva <aoliva@...hat.com>
To:	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>
Cc:	Anders Larsen <al@...rsen.net>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Daniel Hazelton <dhazelton@...er.net>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>,
	debian developer <debiandev@...il.com>, david@...g.hm,
	Tarkan Erimer <tarkan@...one.net.tr>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

On Jun 20, 2007, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com> wrote:

> Alexandre Oliva wrote:
>> 
>>> b) the manufacturer is able to update the device _in_ _the_ _field_.
>> Sure, it would be more costly, but it's not like the
>> law (or the agreements in place) *mandate* tivoization.

> The sad part is that the FCC, especially, are pretty fond of doing
> exactly that.

<broken-record>
  It does not mandate the use of *copyleft* Free Software in non-ROM
  such a way that the user cannot modify it.
</broken-record>

> This comes more from a general cluelessness about technology

And the meaning of tivoization ;-)

Tivoization doesn't mean "user can't modify".  It's more than that.


But I agree with the feeling.  It's like mandating knife manufacturers
to design ways to stop people from hurting or killing others with
knives.  So much for self defense...

-- 
Alexandre Oliva         http://www.lsd.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/
FSF Latin America Board Member         http://www.fsfla.org/
Red Hat Compiler Engineer   aoliva@...dhat.com, gcc.gnu.org}
Free Software Evangelist  oliva@...d.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org}
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