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Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0706201419170.30395@asgard.lang.hm>
Date:	Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:20:19 -0700 (PDT)
From:	david@...g.hm
To:	Alexandre Oliva <aoliva@...hat.com>
cc:	Jesper Juhl <jesper.juhl@...il.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@....linux.org.uk>,
	Bernd Schmidt <bernds_cb1@...nline.de>,
	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Daniel Hazelton <dhazelton@...er.net>,
	Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>,
	debian developer <debiandev@...il.com>,
	Tarkan Erimer <tarkan@...one.net.tr>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

On Wed, 20 Jun 2007, Alexandre Oliva wrote:

> On Jun 20, 2007, "Jesper Juhl" <jesper.juhl@...il.com> wrote:
>
>> On 19/06/07, Alexandre Oliva <aoliva@...hat.com> wrote:
>>> On Jun 18, 2007, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org> wrote:
>>>> In the GPLv3 world, we have already discussed in this thread how you can
>>>> follow the GPLv3 by making the TECHNICALLY INFERIOR choice of using a ROM
>>>> instead of using a flash device.
>>>
>>> Yes.  This is one option that doesn't bring any benefits to anyone.
>>> It maintains the status quo for users and the community, but it loses
>>> the ability for the vendor to upgrade, fix or otherwise control the
>>> users.  Bad for the vendor.
>
>> Also bad for the user
>
> We already know the vendor doesn't care about the user, so why should
> we take this into account when analyzing the reasoning of the vendor?

no, we don't know this. you attribute the reason for the lockdown to be 
anti-user. others view it as being pro-user becouse it lets the user get 
functionality that they wouldn't have access to otherwise.

David Lang
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