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Date:	Fri, 22 Jun 2007 00:33:13 +0300
From:	Al Boldi <a1426z@...ab.com>
To:	Adrian Bunk <bunk@...sta.de>
Cc:	Michal Piotrowski <michal.k.k.piotrowski@...il.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: How to improve the quality of the kernel?

Adrian Bunk wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 04:41:28PM +0300, Al Boldi wrote:
> > Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > > Talk is cheap, but unless YOU will do it your emails will only be a
> > > waste of bandwidth.
> >
> > Thanks, and good luck with involving people with this kind of response!
>
> It's simply how kernel development works - not by talking but by doing
> the work.

This sounds like a brute-force approach, akin to hacking.

I think it's much more productive to analyze the problem and then design a 
solution accordingly.

> Many people thought long-term maintainance for 2.6.16 wouldn't make sense.
> And I didn't start long discussions whether we need regression tracking -
> I simply did it.

Maybe because you are a PRO.

> These are things that simply happened because I thought they were
> important - and because I got my ass up to do them myself.
>
> Don't expect anyone to jump up to do it only because of your talk.
> YOU must offer something, and it will work if it's then accepted by
> people.
>
> If you think what you have in mind is both doable and important just do
> it. You will find out where the problems lie yourself.
> You might be able to prove me and all other people who think it would
> not work wrong.
> You might fail, e.g. because people will not adopt whatever you have in
> mind because they don't like it for some reason, but that's part of how
> development works, and you'll never know unless you try it.


Thanks!

--
Al

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