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Message-Id: <1182469541.2704.13.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org>
Date:	Thu, 21 Jun 2007 16:45:40 -0700
From:	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>
To:	Chuck Ebbert <cebbert@...hat.com>
Cc:	Lennart Sorensen <lsorense@...lub.uwaterloo.ca>,
	Jesper Juhl <jesper.juhl@...il.com>,
	Zolt?n HUBERT <zoltan.hubert@...ero.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Please release a stable kernel Linux 3.0

On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 19:08 -0400, Chuck Ebbert wrote:
> On 06/21/2007 07:01 PM, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 06:34:20PM -0400, Chuck Ebbert wrote:
> >> Even the good ones that get lots of fixes aren't all that good. The
> >> biggest problem ATM is that suspend is badly broken and keeps getting
> >> worse...
> > 
> > I wasn't under the impression suspend had really ever worked.  Such a
> > messy problem to solve.
> > 
> 
> It never worked reliably for everyone, but with each new release it
> seems to get worse.

the thing is just fundamentally not designed right. Declaring it stable
ain't gonna fix that. Having someone do a right design (which will
obviously will go through some breakage period, even if it's an
evolution of the current design) is a required step of getting s/r more
reliable... but the current one doesn't get stable just by declaring it
so.


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