linux-kernel - Re: This is [Re:] How to improve the quality of the kernel[?].

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Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.0.98.0706211658270.3593@woody.linux-foundation.org>
Date:	Thu, 21 Jun 2007 16:59:39 -0700 (PDT)
From:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
To:	Adrian Bunk <bunk@...sta.de>
cc:	Oleg Verych <olecom@...wer.upol.cz>,
	Martin Bligh <mbligh@...igh.org>,
	Natalie Protasevich <protasnb@...il.com>,
	"Fortier,Vincent [Montreal]" <Vincent.Fortier1@...gc.ca>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Stefan Richter <stefanr@...6.in-berlin.de>,
	Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <bzolnier@...il.com>,
	Michal Piotrowski <michal.k.k.piotrowski@...il.com>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@...stfloor.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>,
	Diego Calleja <diegocg@...il.com>,
	Chuck Ebbert <cebbert@...hat.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: This is [Re:] How to improve the quality of the kernel[?].



On Fri, 22 Jun 2007, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 19, 2007 at 10:04:58AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> >...
> > This is why I've been advocating bugzilla "forget" stuff, for example. I 
> > tend to see bugzilla as a place where noise accumulates, rather than a 
> > place where noise is made into a signal. 
> > 
> > Which gets my to the real issue I have: the notion of having a process for 
> > _tracking_ all the information is actually totally counter-productive, if 
> > a big part of the process isn't also about throwing noise away.
> > 
> > We don't want to "save" all the crud. I don't want "smart tracking" to 
> > keep track of everything. I want "smart forgetting", so that we are only 
> > left with the major signal - the stuff that matters. 
> 
> Even generating the perfect signal is a complete waste of time if 
> there's no recipient for the signal...

My argument is that *if* we had "more signal, less noise", we'd probably 
get more people looking at it.

In fact, I guarantee that's the case. You may  not be 100% happy with the 
regression list, but every single maintainer/developer I've talked to has 
said they appreciated it and it made it easier (and thus more likely) for 
them to actually look at what the outstanding issues were.

		Linus
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