lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Message-ID: <787b0d920706212256u7e78ba6n15ef41bcea99aff0@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Fri, 22 Jun 2007 01:56:28 -0400
From:	"Albert Cahalan" <acahalan@...il.com>
To:	"Arjan van de Ven" <arjan@...radead.org>
Cc:	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: JIT emulator needs

On 6/21/07, Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org> wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 02:35 -0400, Albert Cahalan wrote:
> > Right now, Linux isn't all that friendly to JIT emulators.
> > Here are the problems and suggestions to improve the situation.
> >
> > There is an SE Linux execmem restriction that enforces W^X.
> > Assuming you don't wish to just disable SE Linux, there are
> > two ugly ways around the problem. You can mmap a file twice,
> > or you can abuse SysV shared memory. The mmap method requires
> > that you know of a filesystem mounted rw,exec where you can
> > write a very large temporary file. This arbitrary filesystem,
> > rather than swap space, will be the backing store. The SysV
> > shared memory method requires an undocumented flag and is
> > subject to some annoying size limits. Both methods create
> > objects that will fail to be deleted if the program dies
> > before marking the objects for deletion.
>
> and these methods also destroy yourself on any machine with a looser
> cache coherency between I and D-cache....
>
> for all but x86 you pretty much have to do the mprotect() between the
> two states to deal with the cache flushing properly...

If the instructions to force data write-back and/or to
invalidate the instruction cache are priveleged, yes.
AFAIK, only ARM is that lame.

For example, PowerPC lets unprivileged code run
the required instructions.
-
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ