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Message-ID: <46842A2D.4060201@gmail.com>
Date:	Thu, 28 Jun 2007 23:37:49 +0200
From:	Rene Herman <rene.herman@...il.com>
To:	Adrian Bunk <bunk@...sta.de>
CC:	Nix <nix@...eri.org.uk>, Olivier Galibert <galibert@...ox.com>,
	Takashi Iwai <tiwai@...e.de>,
	Tomasz K?oczko <kloczek@...y.mif.pg.gda.pl>,
	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Is it time for remove (crap) ALSA from kernel tree ?

On 06/28/2007 11:06 PM, Adrian Bunk wrote:

> The interesting point is that what you call "internal implementation 
> details" is much _more_ exposed with the OSS emulation in the kernel 
> _enabled_.
> 
> Why?
> 
> Linux software not supporting ALSA has becoming quite esoteric.
> 
> But software like mplayer supporting both and trying OSS first and 
> software supporting both and letting the user choose is today much more 
> common. And that's exactly the case where users run into the results of 
> the "internal implementation detail" that their application used the 
> in-kernel OSS emulation instead of ALSA resulting in exactly these 
> problems.
> 
> There is also a userspace OSS emulation for ALSA not suffering from these
> problems.
> 
> It's not my decision whether or not to remove the in-kernel OSS
> emulation, all I'm saying is that removing it might actually result in
> less users having problems.

For what it's worth -- I do agree with this...

Rene.

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