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Message-ID: <20070702182850.GB14507@ipom.com>
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 11:28:50 -0700
From: Phil Dibowitz <phil@...m.com>
To: Andreas Steinmetz <ast@...dv.de>
Cc: Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@...putergmbh.de>,
netfilter-devel@...ts.netfilter.org,
Linux Kernel Mailinglist <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: mss to pmtu clamping partially broken?
On Mon, Jul 02, 2007 at 07:04:12PM +0200, Andreas Steinmetz wrote:
> Jan Engelhardt wrote:
> > Do you really need clamping? It's a hack, since TCP should do MSS negotiation
> > itself. (Of course it may happen that some routers are broken.) But usually not
> > for incoming packets.
>
> You never know when you hit ICMP blackholes, broken routers and other
> evil things. Better safe than sorry so clamping is the way to go for me.
I encourage you to report PMTUD Blackholes to the MSS Initiative at
http://www.phildev.net/mss/
We'll notify them, and if we can't get them to fix it, blacklist them. We have
more fixed sites than blacklisted sites, so it's at least somewhat successful.
--
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