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Message-Id: <200707051602.19042.rjw@sisk.pl>
Date:	Thu, 5 Jul 2007 16:02:17 +0200
From:	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>
To:	Oliver Neukum <oliver@...kum.org>
Cc:	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@...redi.hu>, paulus@...ba.org,
	stern@...land.harvard.edu, johannes@...solutions.net,
	linux-pm@...ts.linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	pavel@....cz, mjg59@...f.ucam.org, benh@...nel.crashing.org
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] Re: [PATCH] Remove process freezer from suspend to RAM pathway

On Thursday, 5 July 2007 15:28, Oliver Neukum wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 5. Juli 2007 schrieb Rafael J. Wysocki:
> > > It seems pretty clear cut.  Whining about how much problems this will
> > > cause won't get us nearer to a solution.
> > 
> > Yes, that's pretty clear cut, but we should start from fixing the drivers. :-)
> 
> If, at a minimum, we can determine that we can STD without a freezer.

No, we can't.

> It makes no sense to invest a lot of work to face the same problem
> again with STD.

Arguably, it does make sense, because for many platforms the hibernation
is irrelevant and we're going to separate the suspend and hibernation
frameworks anyway.

Greetings,
Rafael


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